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I know the historical IRA was not the same as the troubles era Provisional IRA and was indeed a non sectarian group but this distinction is never going to be accepted so please drop all references to the IRA. Do that Celtic fans and you can truly take the moral ground over the hate filled bigots of Ibrox who have neither the wit, imagination or will to change their song book. Not that this has anything to do with the shameful scenes on Saturday.

Pete, as a Celtic fan of over fifty years I attend all games at Parkhead and can assure you that there are no longer any sectarian songs or chants which once echoed round the ground and that is a fact not a whitewash of any kind. The shameful scenes at Ibrox should be condemned by any right thinking person and I utterly resent Celtic being brought into this debate as the real issue is why British Armed Forces Personnel are being dragged into the sectarian den on a regular basis. Enjoy being exploited then.

The government and your football club is doing a great job of distracting you from issues in the wider world and issues at your club. There surely must be an enquiry by the Ministry of Defence in to the antics of their employees at Ibrox on Saturday. If any employee of any other Government department were to be seen to be acting in this way you can be assured that all hell would beak loose and heads would roll. The sooner the Rangers or whatever they are currently called disappear from the face of the earth our country will be a better place.

I had no idea that Rule, Britannia! Certainly not to British people or their servicemen. Before the haters start I do not condone any sectarian singing but wish to point out that the blogger seems to be offended by an anthem of the armed forces. Yet some on here are insisting that they cant see the problem, or are intent on deflecting attention onto another football club. It seems that in an effort to preserve their identity after liquidation, fans of The Rangers are becoming a caricature of all that was noxious about the old club.

Sadly their owners seem ready to pander to lowest common denominator in order to draw attention away from their own inadequacies and the looming threat of administration, However, one might have expected a little more from the MOD. I would like Uefa notified about this ridiculous showing of brain-dead behaviour.

In in Portadown a Catholic man, Robert Hamill, was stamped to death by a loyalist mob. Rangers fans often deny the link, just as they often deny that their club operated a sectarian signing policy. The club now sign Catholics but I would suggest anti-Catholic hatred amongst their fans is as bad as ever. Its like Penny Arcade — that acquired connotations and meaning that Roy Orbison knew nothing about. Celtic had a large poppy displayed in the centre of their shirts last year. As they did the year before and the year before that… Stay off Rangers fans forums — they are full of propoganda.

Derry walls not sectarian.. The involvement of the armed forces in Scottish politics is not new. The first world war celebrations are clearly aimed at influencing the referendum campaign as the normal practice would be to commemorate the end of a war not its beginning. To be precise, the Scottish Government did not pass anti-sectarian laws as, in common with most other people, they cannot define what is sectarian and why.

You can now be found guilty of singing an Irish Republican song, one which was sung on a BBC flagship drama just last week and which is also available to download and listen to on i-tunes and You Tube, if you sing it in the vicinity of a football match in Scotland. It is offensive to civil liberties and it is snobbish and bigoted in singling out football as a context where behaviour is offensive. Sing a republican song at the rugby and other legislation would have to be used to convict you.

Needless to say, I consider their judgement to be quite prejudiced in itself. My comment did not appear on the online comment section to which it was submitted and no reason was given for this censorship. In this climate, we are finding that only the media outwith Scotland is willing to take any kind of look at what is going on here.

So Alex please point out the line where UVF is mentioned. Nope its wasnt. Fact or fiction? Or as always do we get the permanently offended scouring you tube in the hope of being offended. Mind you as long as they have useful idiots willing to do their bidding then I guess it works. Surprise, surprise, anti British and supporters of the IRA not happy at pro British celebration of the armed forces. No right minded person will see anything wrong with a song with anti IRA words as they are the enemy of our armed forces.

Classing a wide range of people as the same is surely a racist comment? Or perhaps the more likely scenario is that there were none. It is therefore unsurprising that they loathe the British military and will do and say anything to discredit them. An ill informed blog by an english journalist , with no concept of decency, has given the bigots a platform, to spout nonsense , THe parade was through Rangers Charity Foundation , which has for many years supported all armed forces , veteran care homes etc. How someone can see bad in this beggars belief.

With wreckless journalism like this being allowed , is it any wonder there are so many bigots prepared to jump on this bandwagon. How sad that as usual most people supporting our Armed Forces are most likely deemed to be Protestant or Sectarian. Get a grip, would this have been brought up if it had been at another Scottish Club. As a former soldier I am as proud of our Armed troops as anyone.

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Then our lads are seen acting as cheer leaders as sectarian songs of hate are spewed out by a section of the crowd is a complete embarrassment to the British military and to Scotland. The sectarian singing was against the law in Scotland and for our troops to aid and abet perhaps unwittingly should never have happened. The top brass should have been well aware that there was the possibility of sectarian singing and have forewarned our troops not to become involved.

However, more alarming is the suppression of such news by the mass media. I can only guess that an embargo from the corrid00rs of power is responsible for this. Shame on them. I have to say, this whole debate has been turned into a bit of a farce. As a Rangers fan, a sensible display of some military marching and the singing of our British national anthem perhaps with the abseiling to provide some theatre and excitement to the event, I beleive would have been better.

However there are no charges, only an investigation, so this pre-emptive, judgemental opinion peice not journalism by any stretch of the imagination is damning on Rangers fans, Celtic fans, the armed forces and the police, who apparently failed to notice the 44, hate filled bigots that were singing about the UVF or whoever else….. The fact is Rangers and Celtic both have a minority bigoted element, who both continously embarrass both clubs, however both clubs have worked extremely hard to discourage and remove these elements from the spectator base…..

I for one think it would be a great thing if Celtic also allowed for their fans to pay tribute on rememberance weekend at Parkhead, as I am sure that the vast majority of Celtic followers will have nothing but respect for our armed forces and I am sure there are thousands of celtic fans currently serving…this however, for some reason, remains to be seen……. I think its honestly a joke and is has made it to the news!

They country does not do enough for our armed forces to begin with! If every football club took a leaf out of rangers book it would show our armed forces how much we appreciated them! To get involved in that kind of bigotry and lower themselves to the singing shown in many videos astonished me.

It is a year to the referendum on Scottish Independence. Everything is political in Scotland at this time. The positioning of the armed forces at Ibrox was hugely political. The armed forces behaved in a disgusting sectarian fashion and it makes me ashamed. I have many family members in the forces it is an insult to them. The celebration at Ibrox was a tribute to British soldiers,airmen and navy who fight and unfortunately also the large number that have died for our country.

To wear a Union Jack around your shoulders is not a crime but something to be proud of. Many were also wearing the saltire also not a crime. These guys fight and put their lives on the line for you, me and everyone in this country so that we can be free and enjoy freedom of speech, freedom from tyranny. And the lives we take for granted The service personnel enjoyed actually being applauded and being shown some respect instead of facing the recent poppy burning,desecration of war memorials and the other crimes of hate that only serve to try and demean the British pride in our country.

These events have in the past served to attempt making a mockery of our brave servicemen and women and the hardships they suffer in the course of serving this country. Why not write about these real displays of hatred rather than attempt to taint this recent celebration of our armed forces and force your own warped view of this event on everyone. Were is the Media when Celtic fans are slurring sectarian and hatred filled chants about British troops and mocking our war dead by dishonouring rememberance day and the poppy what is ur agenda Alex??

Very worrying that A. Salmond hasnt condemned this nauseating spectacle Has any party leader in Scotland? What i do hear is it was a fantastic day, Everyone there had a good day: Get a life…. Trust Rangers fans to actually justify their bigotry by bringing Celtic FC into this debacle. Fact is Rangers fans are not wanted anywhere. They are disrespectful. I lived in Glasgow for 2 years. I was walking along Argyle St and under my coat was a green tracksuit and the colour was just protruding out through my jacket.

A minibus of Gers fans came past and the sectarian abuse they lobbed at me was amazing. They must be so annoyed to have to play on green grass as in Lark Hall they removed the green from the traffic lights. Pea brained idiots. So there you have it — Rule Britannia is sectarian. Rangers give more support to the Armed Forces than any other UK club.

Father — Royal Engineers, his three brothers all British Army, all four brought up within a strict Catholic household. Parades along Dundyven Road to the Cenotaph were memorable!! Both me and my brother SG are extremely proud of serving our country and still hold pride to this day. My brother carried out many parades including palace duties.

The banter was always magic but never sectarian. As an ex serviceman I can tell you that sport is huge in the forces with football being in the main. The piss up and curry afterwards was an amazing tool that suddenly brought out the forces camaraderie which I can only describe to civvies is just like meeting your best mates in the pub. I carried out many parades which celebrated St. Andrews Day and Remembrance Day but never a sporting!! We were not allowed to show uniform in public apart from parades.

To and from work was civvies only. I have no problem with HM Forces volunteering to parade at sporting events but I do when it becomes unorganised, distasteful and disrespectable to the uniform and what it stands for. I never once took it for granted or expected public admiration. He sold it to me as a full time well paid job with further technical education, a unique lifestyle and a chance to serve my country. Job done. In my view, if the Armed Forces Day was organised as a Stadium Parade, on take the applauds then off for a few pints , then I would not be typing this as nobody would have cause for complaint.

This parade was a complete disaster. I can just imagine the trip down to Colchester after breaking ranks in St. I had friends who attended the game on Saturday, and told me none of the songs were sectarian. I find it highly laughable that protestant British Rangers supporters have their name dragged through the mud when Celtic fans sing IRA songs and rebel songs and fly flags with up the RA plastered all over them and seem to think that because they support celtic that they have to be Irish and are catholic and say awful things about protestants.

Celtic fans sicken me more than Rangers fans, especially when the team is open to people from all religions and backgrounds. It was nothing but a shameful mess and bringing celtic into the argument tells us everything about the type of people defending this debacle. Nothing to do with celtic, get on with failing and leave celtic out of it, the old firm died with rangers, we go our way, you have a new club and a new beginning, you go yours, only the road you are taking will lead to failure i,e trying to emulate the old failed defunct club….. It is a mess of your own making, nothing to do with celtic and whataboutery is not an excuse.

Seems that the only offended people are Celtic minded as usual! Could it be they are jealous because there aint a snowballs chance in hell of Our Boys being welcomed at Parkhead?? The fact of the matter here is that military personnel cannot be seen to be involved in any way with sectarian or racist songs and chants and hopefully, suitable punishment will be meted out to those that were as a deterrent. As for the usual deflection policy of the rangers fans. Billl Boyes. Its amazing how people give themselves away. When Police Scotland issue a similar statement of no criminal offences ever taking place on Saturday, will you be big enough, Alex, to admit that this manufacture outrage was built on a malicious lie spread by petty Rangers-haters and duly apologise?

Rangers supporters celebrate and commemorate the service of our Armed Forces, as decent people do. It is deeply sectarian, rabidly anti-Catholic, anti-Irish and vehemently anti-Celtic. He wants to be in the Navy when he grows up- how do I explain to him that, since Saturday, his parents will be utterly against the idea because his comrades- or most of them, would actually hate him for his religion?

Let me get this straight,…You will be telling your son not to join the forces because he will be hated due to his religion, on the basis that Rangers hosted the Forces at their stadium in gratitude of their service? Are you suggesting that all Rangers fans and the British Army personnel present in some way discriminated against Catholics? Is that not you being bigoted and sectarian in your assumption? Rangers had multiple Catholics playing in their 1st 11 on Saturday, 1 of them scored 4 goals.

I suppose you should let him know that he was hated and all 44, were being sectarian and bigoted against him. Atheist, Scottish nationalist and republican. I find the much less pronounced British nationalism on a bi-monthly basis cringe-worthy, and this was it at its worst. Ibrox should be somewhere I go to enjoy a game of football every week, not to receive a dose of rampant protestant British unionism.

Football fans are notoriously bad for their often bigoted attitudes, especially in this part of the world. Anyone who maintains that all Celtic fans are squeaky clean are frankly deluded. However, the contention I feel most duty-bound to challenge is this idea that it is only a small minority of fans who misbehave or peddle irrelevant nonsense. From my experience of attending games for a number of years, the singing seems far too loud, and far too widespread to suggest that only narrow minority are at fault.

Hello James, As a fellow season ticket holder I have to wonder where you were sitting because your account of what went on at Ibrox on Saturday is frankly bizarre to me. As far as I witnessed there was no singing of sectarian songs. Also where did the Protestant part come into it? I never heard any faith mentioned when I was there? If you feel anything illegal was done I suggest you report it to both the club and the police stating what you witnessed and where you are seated. I trust you will raise this issue on a fans forum as well?! I have to say that I deeply doubt you were there never mind a season ticket holder going by your interpretation of what went on.

I would have to say James that you almost certainly have a distorted view of Celtic fans if you believe the fan base turns up to the games on any given Saturday, drink their bovril, and proceed to spew sectarian and offensive bile whilst watching the game. During European nights, big games against the other clubs it is, and always will be in my opinion, a small minority that besmirch the celtic fans. We should always strive to be better, but we are never going to get anywhere when we sit and blindly ignore the problems, or try to subvert the truth by saying that the boy across the road is just as bad a you are.

James, couldnt agree more. As a Scottish Asian Rangers I just got fed up with the whole environment, none of the songs were football related and the atmosphere unwelcoming. I understand football clubs represent communities, causes, politics and social classes, but Ibrox goes way past this and towards hate rate of other people. I endorse your comment about this being a minority which is absolute rubbish. The club represents unionism, the Protestant faith, Ulster and loyalty to the Queen, which we need to accept and move on.

Celtic represents the Scottish Irish community, Barcelona represents Catalonia, Boca Juniors are followed by the working classes in comparison to River Plate. Once again Thomson choses to spout his bigoted bile on a broadcast network! What does it tell you about people that they are willing to criticise our forces in order to create trouble for Rangers and their fans? The scenes at the weekend were a disgrace to civilized humanity, sickening to sight British military involved with the sort of extremely perverse so called nationalism akin to the most extreme parts of loyalist terrorist Belfast.

If senior officers do not face severe repremand for not only allowing this perverse debacle, but encouraging it. I will be publicly handing my medal back in a plastic bag. What event was so outrageous that you compare a celebration everyone enjoyed to the worst elements of human nature? I find it bewildering that a former soldier such as yourself could be offended by fellow troops being applauded by 44, people and those troops walking on the pitch and getting pictures of the day. I am a Celtic fan and its totally obvious my fellow Celtic fans are on here pretending to be ex-soldiers and Gers fans.

Get a grip. To state that you are Protestant, or indeed proud of being so is not a crime, although to demean or deride others for stating the view is actually bigotry. Not the other way around…. Whether or not this has actually happened remains to be seen and is currently under investigation.

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How many of the offended, rushing to jump aboard the bandwagon, were actually at the game? What seat were you in Tommo? But then you already know about all of that dontcha alex bhoy? The extreme element within Rangers FC are abhorrent and undoubtedly sectarian. By celebrating such organisations, you are celebrating sectarian murder. It is minorities on both sides, but Celtic are far from innocent in this respect.

What do these have to do with football? Or why did Celtic fans see the need to rip up the seats at Firhill not so long ago? I do not support either club, but I find songs celebrating organisations that murder Catholics, Protestants, British soldiers, or police officers absolutely disgusting. As for BOTOB, well, you do hear that but its hard to make an argument against it now that the queen has paid tribute to them. A great deal of mud gets thrown at the Celtic support and even when lies are exposed the mud still sticks with some people.

Come on, get real! Or should we give the fans the benefit of the doubt?

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There is plenty of pro-IRA chanting at CP although it is generally more noticeable at away games why though? People actually sing about Samaras. There may not be explicitly anti-Protestant lyrics to these songs, but given the IRA pre-PIRA too in sectarian murder I point you to my original comment for some examples , it is at best distasteful to glorify these thugs. I mention the Celtic support in an article about shameful behaviour by Rangers supporters because so many sanctimonious Celtic supporters came on here, holier than thou, in feigned disgust, when most right thinking people know they are just as bad.

And anyway, as a Celtic fan who supposedly has no interest in rangers, why btoher searching for articles about Rangers — if you have so little interest? So get off your high horses — people in glass houses and all that…. The MOD is now saying that Sevco wants to do more of these days and they want to be part of it. Which suggests that the MOD has spectacularly missed the point. If the MOD is part of any days like this at Ibrox in the run up to the referendum vote, which would be an explicitly political gesture, they could find that the whole situation could really bite them hard on the backside.

The display at Ipox was not sectarian in and of itself. However the idiots in uniform who disgraced that uniform should be called to account for their behaviour. They start singing those songs. If you were a soldier in the British army and were a Catholic Celtic supporter, would you want them at your back on patrol. As for having the parade at Celtic park or any other ground for that matter, it should never be allowed. Politics should never be involved in football and this is what happens when bringing the army into it.

And before any of you sectarian loyalist bigots start having a go, i am already in the process of trying to organise a charity event for families of Scottish football players, who served their country and died in World war 1 and 2. Will hopefully have some sort of monument to them erected. Zeke, the Scottish regiments have always had lots of Rangers and Celtic supporters in their ranks, many of whose sympathies politically and culturally lie where you might expect; however, loyalty to the uniform trumps any of that and a Catholic Celtic supporting soldier would have utmost confidence in his Rangers supporting Protestant colleagues — they know they can trust them.

And it works both ways. Actually you will find that really its a good number of celtic fans who support the ira who went on to joim forces with the germans aka nazis during the wars unlike the uvf who volunteered to fight alongside the british forces to fight for our freedom etc so if any1 needs to go learn something its people like you an all the anti brits on this thread that need to especially thus journalist alex thomson since hes shown he doesnt no what sectarianism is as his claims are all false and no sectarian singing took place I should no I was at the game unlike the 1s who made the claims there is no such thing as a sectarian song its only certain words that make something sectarian.

The ira joined forces with the germans aka nazis during the wars thought best sort that wee part out before its took the wrong way. Yes unfortunately, some Celtic fans do sympathise with the IRA. Anyway, Celtic are actually doing stuff about it. Skip to main news content Skip to news search Skip to news navigation Skip to All 4 navigation. It was so easy: Stand and enjoy the applause. March off. Following a number of questions to the Ministry of Defence regarding the scenes at Ibrox on Saturday, Channel 4 News has received the following response; An MoD spokesperson said: Tweets by alextomo.

What is wrong with dignified march on and off? Stupid in the extreme. Yvonne says: Jimmy says: Ivor Trewth says: David Robertson says: John Hamill says: It was a marvellous occasion and should be mandatory at all British football grounds.

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MichaelM says: Fianna says: Bruce says: Kevin says: Totally agree Kevin. There was absolutely no need to bring Celtic into this piece. Ronan says: David says: Who suggested we needed or wanted your permission? SemperFi says: Daniel says: Well said. ScouseCraig says: John Reilly says: Yabutey says: Graham says: Empires End says: They walked onto the pitch holding aloft the Saltire. William Brown says: Jamie says: BJ Canoe says: WDH says: Bert Dagastino says: Dark Matters says: Mrs P! Finlay says: These scenes are abhorant, the CO of this debacle should be carpeted and reamed.

How could the leadership be so naive? Not once but twice in less than a year? Well said that man.. Military just showing their true colours 30 Sep at 1: McBhoy says: Embarrassed… 1 Oct at Edgar Blamm says: Why are Celtic mentioned in this blog, Alex? Albalha says: There was abseiling at this game too http: John wiiliamson says: Compton Arthur says: David Hunter says: I am far from pro-IRA and I found the scenes disgusting and in general find the military triumphalism that goes on at these events distasteful at best 30 Sep at 3: Murphman says: Scum bags 30 Sep at 4: Hopefully military and civil law will have some impact on those who besmirched it!

I have never heard a sectarian song sung at Celtic park Alex please elaborate 30 Sep at 1: Christopher says: Brianmac says: David Black says: Debbie says: Gerry says: The Rangers fans must have the collective IQ of a goldfish, 30 Sep at 7: Despicable behavior all round which requires the utmost condemnation. Its an disgrace that the scottish media is silent on what should be a major story.

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